Because something is unbelievable, you should believe in it.

From The Australian an article on the end for God, which I thought was a good atheist piece until I got toward the end:

You’d have thought … that the Son of God … would enter the world in a way that would leave no doubt who he was or that he existed.

But he chose instead to come in a way that ensured just about the maximum room for doubt; …

That God would choose to come among us in such a way is so strange, so inexplicable, so unbelievable, it compels us to believe.

I would have thought that it would compel you to think it was all a load of rubbish, but hey, that’s just me.

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106 Comments to “Amazing Christian Logic”

  1. Saved Sinner says:

    Sushi?
    No way. how do we know that it is not whale meat?
    Is it possible that sushi is all that it is cracked up to be?
    Is it possible that there may in fact be an element of whale meat mixed within the raw fish?

    If we were told fom the Japanese authorities that it is not whale meat that we are eating but another form of seafood,do we take it as ‘truth’ that this is so?

    Do we accept the evidence presented as credible evidence or do we undertake our own research?

    Do we accept everything that Richard Dawkins says in his book ‘The God Delusion’ …..the atheists ‘bible’ or do we question his hypothesis?

    The question we need to ask ourselves therefore is: Do we believe in the Richard Dawkins bible of which their is questionable evidence,or do we accept the “Truth” that is presented in the Holy Bible?

    Which bible is reliable when it comes to questions regarding truth?

    cheers

    SS

  2. AV says:

    If we were told fom the Japanese authorities that it is not whale meat that we are eating but another form of seafood,do we take it as ‘truth’ that this is so?

    Not if we have reason to be skeptical. What’s your point?

    Do we accept everything that Richard Dawkins says in his book ‘The God Delusion’ …..the atheists ‘bible’ or do we question his hypothesis?

    There can be no clearer demonstration of the bad faith in which you are partaking of this discussion than your utterance of the phrase “atheists bible.” It hardly bears repeating, but atheism is a single position on a single question–”Do you believe in God?” No more, no less. The notion that atheists have a bible is as patently nonsensical as the notion that people who don’t believe unicorns exist have a bible.

    There’s something you have to understand, SS. Not everyone thinks like fundies “think.” We don’t treat bow and genuflect before books like TGD as if they were sacred and infallible. We actually read them, and judge them on their own merits–agreeing with what they have to say to a certain degree, but also invariably finding cause for criticism. The degree to which we agree, and the degree to which we disagree with what books like TGD have to say differs from individual atheist to individual atheist. And, if you care to investigate your claims before uttering them, you’ll find atheists who have been quite vociferous in their criticism of Dawkins.

    Sorry to shatter your strawman. Again.

    I mean, think about what you’re saying. If the fact that many atheists might find something to agree with in TGD makes that book “the atheist’s bible,” does that mean that the many Christians who bought The Purpose Driven Life are guilty of heresy because they now worship a rival bible to the Christian one?

    The question we need to ask ourselves therefore is: Do we believe in the Richard Dawkins bible of which their is questionable evidence,or do we accept the “Truth” that is presented in the Holy Bible?

    False dilemma. And TGD is not a bible. (Though it is interesting that you use the term “bible” as a pejorative against atheists. You must find it a real chore to live with such cognitive dissonance.)

    BTW, you mentioned evidence, there. You haven’t provided any reasonable evidence thus far that “Truth” is present in your bible.

  3. Saved Sinner says:

    AV
    There is no need to apologise regarding the ‘strawman’ concept.
    I could say that not all christians who call themselves christians are truly christians and that would be a true statement.

    I may not be correct in labelling all atheists as true believers in accepting TGD and as you have pointed out that TGD may not in fact be the atheists bible………….but

    when it comes to accepting truth

    I firmly believe that 1+1=2

    that is in itself an absolute.

    Now, you can argue with me until the cows come home,and as you yourself did say in a previous post regarding belief systems, that 1+1= either 3 4 or 5.
    ……………………………..I cannot accept that evidence or hypothesis.

    If my belief system is the equal to 1+1=2 then I know the “Truth”

    1+1=2 always will equal 2 and that is definitely an absolute.
    Nothing you can say will ever change it. absolutely nothing.

    You may present a plausible argument to refute this absolute,but nothing will ever change the fact.
    ……………………………………………………..1+1=2……………………………………………………
    that is my belief.

    you cannot deny that.

    cheers

    SS

  4. AV says:

    Now, you can argue with me until the cows come home,and as you yourself did say in a previous post regarding belief systems, that 1+1= either 3 4 or 5.

    Nope. I never said that, nor do I believe it. Though I’m not sure what “1 + 1 = 2″ has to do with our discussion, or with the evidence you have yet to provide in support of your claim that “the Truth” is located in your bible, your repetition of the lie that somewhere in this thread I claimed that 1 + 1 = 3, 4 or 5 only emphasises the fact that you are not participating in this discussion in good faith. (And you appear to be in violation of one of your Commandments. As a self-described “saved sinner,” I assume that means something to you. Or is lying OK when you’re lying for Jesus?)

  5. Metarock says:

    it’s so totally incredible how anti-intellectual atheists are. a whole movement, a whopping 3% of the US pop who are totally fools and are so convienced they are brilliant merely because they don’t understand theology and they can mock people.

  6. AV says:

    it’s so totally incredible how anti-intellectual atheists are

    . . . he said before launching into an Appeal to Numbers fallacy, an abusive Ad Hominem and a Strawman fallacy.

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